before I post and catch Tenacity up on everything, I'm a little confused as to why Camille is tired. At this point, it's been four hours at most since breaking camp for them.
I also don't know how Ardulace knows that Chiron was casting aspersions on her honesty, if she and Seluumiel and Satya weren't part of the horse-cluster on the walk up the street. If there was another time that he said something to Tenacity --about and within earshot of--Lacey, I must have missed it.
Based on what people are saying and how they say it. He kept pausing as he searched for words when talking about her; four times, during one of which he looked back at her. She can tell that he's unsure about Lacey for some reason. I think there's a lot going unspoken in between them that Tenacity is sure to notice.
"...if he is not too busy casting aspersions upon my honesty to complete strangers."
Honesty, integrity, and trustworthiness are all tied into the same facet of a person for her. No one would slight the honesty of a person they trusted, and why would anyone need truth serums (the acquisition of which mattered to Lacey, somehow)? I don't think Tenacity has ever had anyone but criminals be wary of her (that old "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" rhetoric). There's definitely something weird that she doesn't want to step into and she has questions, but no intent to act on them yet.
I didn't actually say anything in-game about Lacey's wariness, my opinions are based on what people are saying.
Chiron said ogres, undead, and a dragon were associated with the house and that the ogres were confirmed. The undead, if I'm not mistaken, were reported by the children and the party never saw any of that. Chiron never said who reported the undead or the dragon.
Ardulace believes that aspersions were cast and Tenacity never heard anything like that.
Edit: Incidentally, the Q&A thread is kind of for discussion about what characters might be thinking and for asking questions and clarifying.
"Until then, unless otherwise stated, Ardulace will accompany the group wherever it decides to go, agree with Seluumiel, be suspicious of Chiron and be wary of Tenacity." seemed to cover Ardulace's comportment during the conversation in the library, to me. I'm sorry if I was mistaken, but I didn't act on that.
I'll edit the in-game posts if appropriate. Just need you to tell me where the flubs are.
Posted on 2009-06-26 at 05:43:39.
Edited on 2009-06-26 at 08:02:17 by Celediel
I never said that Tenacity didn't trust Ardulace, and the fact that Lacey cleared her throat so pointedly before mention of truth serums and her beliefs that her honesty had been slighted led her to believe there was a lot going on.
You're making mountains out of molehills.
What there is in any of those passages to convince Tenacity that Chiron does not trust Ardulace is a mystery to me. One might easily conclude that Ardulace is not a local, nor familiar with local customs, but beyond that I don't see anything that would justify the kind of ideas that Tenacity has conceived about Ardulace.
That's all. I just don't think that Tenacity has any reason to have recognized Chiron's distrust of Ardulace, no reason to distrust her herself (or any reason to trust her thus far). Ardulace's attitude toward Chiron, though, has been displayed. It seems that Tenacity is drawing conclusions from OOC knowledge that you have gained from reading the game thread (such as the truth serum, and the conflict between Chiron and Ardulace), that she simply could not possess.
His choices of words were very deliberate. He was wary about what he said and/or what she heard. Tenacity isn't sure why that would be, but isn't making any decisions based on that observation. It could be because he's afraid of setting off a landmine, it could be because he doesn't want her to hear certain things. Those aren't the actions of people who are at ease and trusting of one another.
Disregarding any actual body language that would have been covered by the cover-statement, Ardulace's behavior in barging into the house as if she lived there and then offering hospitality when she was not the hostess are things that seem very odd to Tenacity. "Pardon me" would have been fine if it were accompanied by an explanation to the effect of "He told us to just come on in when it was time for this meeting" or whatever, but the limited words that were used didn't give that impression at all. Ardulace is acting rather strange around at least one person who is, ostensibly, a group-mate. Unless Tenacity can only observe what she says/does towards her and not how she treats others.
It seems like you're trying to defend against Tenacity's "finding you out," which is not something I'm thinking about at all.
Posted on 2009-06-27 at 00:03:36.
Edited on 2009-06-27 at 00:25:14 by Celediel
Ava, your treatment of people OOC in this game has put me off to playing in this campaign entirely. Its a game, and I'd like to think that we all come here because we want to have fun. However this is the second time things have been misconstrued between you and another player in this game, and in the end you are right and you get the last word and that is all that seems to matter.
I am sorry Tiamat to do this after you have worked so hard to try and include me but I do not wish to be involved in a game where I have to be afraid of what ever I post in character because Ava might not like what I have to say or that she feels that I will be wrong in what I post. I came to RDI because I missed the creative writing but now I believe that it will be less stressful for me if I find a different game to be involved with.
Ava, to be fare to you and the other players in the game you must know that in real life I live with the two people in this game that you have had conflict with the most. We have tried very hard to not let that influence our playing in game here because we play, and DM, many D&D games together IRL. We try very hard to keep our player and character knowledge separate for the benefit of the role playing aspect.
I am sorry. I realize now, in retrospect my desire to leave was prematurely placed solely on you. My husband and flatmate share in the influence of that choice as well. I am very protective of the people that I care for and so I spent a lot of time fighting the urge to take sides and want to defend them. It wouldn't have helped anyone in game and simply made you feel ganged up on and that is not my desire. Their reactions and feelings towards your responses to them in the Q&A I not only read in game but saw first hand. I do not have the freedom and disconnectedness that you have to be able to simply post and then turn your computer off.
I over reacted, and feel like I just went and made things worse. I don't know what I can do to fix this mess.
Posted on 2009-06-30 at 05:58:59.
Edited on 2009-06-30 at 05:59:23 by Savrit
I am currently in discussion with the DM about my presence or lack thereof in the game. Please do not use my out of game actions as if they were in game ones. I will be the one to remove Satya from the party if it comes to that. Or I will ask the DM to do so.
And yes I'd like to continue the game if you still want me.
Posted on 2009-07-02 at 00:47:10.
Edited on 2009-07-02 at 00:54:52 by Savrit